Perpeteum Question

[Deano]

Hi,

I want to carry the most concentrated amount of Perpeteum on an upcoming marathon. I have been using 1.5 scoops per hour on my long runs and am wondering how much I can put in the Hammer 5 oz gel flask. I plan on a 3:30 time so I would need 5.25 scoop if I did the math correctly. Don't think this will all fit in the flask but want to know the max for the flask. Plan on taking some Hammer Gels too.

Website says: "Depending on how many scoops per hour you require, and how concentrated the mix is, each flask of Perpetuem can supply you with 2-4 hours of fuel." It would be great if it stated how many scoops the flask could hold.

Thanks,

Deano

[steve-born]

Hello Deano -

Whenever I've made super-concentrated Perpetuem (which I call "Perpetuem Paste") I've used a blender for mixing purposes. A little more labor intensive, yes, but I think it allows me to get the product as concentrated as possible. Another alternative is to use a mixing bowl and whisk (though this too is a bit labor intensive).

There are other methods of making super-concentrated batches of Perpetuem but again, I think the above two are the ones that will allow you to get the thickest concentration, which will allow you to carry more hours of fuel in a flask.

I'll have to blend up a batch of Perpetuem to see just how much a flask will hold, but from what I remember (and it's been awhile ago), I believe I was able to fit just about four scoops in a flask, maybe closer to 3.5 scoops. I've got a long ride planned in the next couple of days so I'll be using "Perpetuem Paste" and can give you a little more precise answer then.

Sincerely -

Steve

[Deano]

Thanks for the response Steve.

I have a 17 mile training run this weekend so I'll make up 4 scoops of paste and see how much I can get in the flask. Just didn't want to waste it. I had been just mixing up a multi hour handheld bottle of Perpeteum.

Your products ROCK BTW and the customer service is great too!!!!

Deano

[mangumc]

Hi, Deano. Don't do what I did last year and mix up two flasks for 5 hours of riding for an IM distance event. The mixture was so dense that I had a lot of trouble getting it out of the flask, which is the last thing you want to worry about on a long ride, or run. I'd say 4 scoops max, or two hours, is all you want to put in a flask.

[tjnieman]

I don't make a past in my gel flask and just carry the powder, which I'll put into my water bottle and mix. I get about 4 scoops into the flask. With a little packing down, you could likely get a bit more. I leave the house with one three-hour Perpetuem bottle and one water bottle. With the powder in the flask, I have about 6 hours of fuel. Works great!